Friday, June 27, 2014

Keiko Kitagawa to be turned into the scapegoat if KimuTaku's HERO flops? (TouSpo)

1: 声なき声に力を ★@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:05:38.32 ID:???
Actress Keiko Kitagawa (27) will be appearing as the heroine in Fuji TV's new Monday-9 drama HERO which will start on July 14.

Takako Matsu previously played the role of the leading lady in HERO, where Takuya Kimura (41) plays an unorthodox prosecutor, in both the 2001 series and the 2007 movie, but passes on the title to Kitagawa this time around.

"Kimura and Kitagawa have already been together in a Monday-9 drama 4 years ago, in Tsuki no Koibito, so they're already familiar with each other. Kitagawa said that she didn't watch too much TV 13 years ago because she was busy with her high school entrance exam studies, but watched HERO religiously. She's actually happy to be part of this production." - (Fuji TV staff)

But there are also some concerns about this, as her previous project Akumu-chan The Mu-vie was a huge flop.
  "One of the biggest reasons for this is that it got crushed by the mega hit Frozen. Despite all the efforts they put into promoting the movie by casting Momoioro Clover and making Keiko Kitagawa join them in a time-exclusive unit "Kimo-Kuro Z", the movie still didn't do too well. Though you still cannot deny that Frozen had a hand in the results, Kitagawa has now been branded as 'an actress who cannot make people come see her at the movie house'." - (movie industry insider)

Kitagawa has already emerged into a star from her generation of young actresses, and is said that she potentially has 8.3% of ratings with her. But she was at 10.5% a year ago, so there's also this feeling that she's already past her prime.

"Actually, other TV networks and competing agencies are kinda hoping that Kitagawa brings with her that 'bad luck' of her flopped movie when she does HERO." - (showbiz production representative)

And it is also said that this drama with KimuTaku will have bearing on Kitagawa's future.

"Even Kimutaku, Mr. Ratings himself, hasn't been able to get the numbers recently. His drama Ando Lloyd on TBS last year averaged 12.78%. This is a remake of a mega hit drama, so the passing mark will be about 18%." 

And if this drama flops, there's the danger that Kitagawa will be turned into the scapegoat.

"They say that this is the reason why Takako Matsu turned down the role, but it's not a rarity where they blame the actress when KimuTaku and other Johnny's talents dramas have bad ratings. When this doesn't do well, we can already see how people will start saying 'If only Matsu played the role instead...'. Kitagawa's actually been placed in a pretty tight spot."

Will they be able to produce a hit that has the ability to do away with all these doubts and concerns? People will now switch focus to Kitagawa's acting, as well as the drama's ratings.

3 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:07:24.86
Do your best Ando Lloyd w
4 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:07:26.39
I'm gonna watch if Kitagawa will take her clothes off
28 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:14:30.19

There's no appeal to Kitagawa even if she goes nude. She'd actually look much better in undies or a bikini.
5 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:07:35.97
Looks like Johnny's Jimusho took the preemptive strike and immediately took precautionary measure here
8 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:08:57.72

I don't think that will be the case. KimuTaku's been repeatedly mass-producing dramas with low ratings.
9 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:09:44.30 ID:UP2TA//
松たか子の代わりが北川景子て ありえん
Keiko Kitagawa as Takako Matsu's replacement? No way.
15 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:10:59.06
To think that it's already been proven that Love Generation, Long Vacation, and HERO's high ratings were all because of Takako Matsu w
16 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:11:52.72
It's really a mystery to me why they haven't used Takako Matsu who's currently hot property

54 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:20:57.63
Precisely because she's hot property right now. It won't help her career at all even if she boards this sinking ship.
123 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:47:02.03
No good since her height doesn't match well next to KimuTaku.

19 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:12:24.11
Will Abe-chan be in this?

24 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:13:41.72
No he won't

20 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:12:35.36
Hey KimuTaku, having a leading lady that's over a decade younger than you is pitiful
22 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:13:31.04

Kitagawa shouldn't bother doing this, she should ride the Sailor Moon 20th anniversary bandwagon a bit more and just leave KimuTaku there
26 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:14:12.15

Kimu should change his path and start doing dandy old man roles. No to idols over 40.

55 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:21:26.76

He would've probably done so if he could. But Kimura can only do the same thing in whatever he does.

27 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:14:16.54 ID:oAmPTaP/
Hero is good
30 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:14:55.63
キムタコがコケてるだろ そもそもレリゴーとのやりとりがおもろいドラマなのにアホだわ
KimuTako's the one who's been flopping. This drama was fun because of the exchanges between KimuTaku and Rerigo- *(Let It Go---Matsu). Are they stupid?

31 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:15:09.83
もうキムタクドラマを見ないと職場で話題に困る時代でもないし、 とっつぁんアイドル見る必要もないしな
We're not in an era where we would have trouble relating to conversations at work even if we don't watch KimuTaku's drama, so there's no need to watch daddy idols
33 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:15:27.32
I was thinking "So will KimuTaku once again be the one who will give the present this year in the Father's Day commercial?" But then I realized that Father's Day has just passed.
35 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:15:59.57

Nah, KimuTaku and Fuji Tv will definitely be at fault no matter how you see it. But Fuji really has no sense since they're not using the in-demand Matsu and Abe from Thermae.

65 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:25:13.58
They just declined to board a sinking ship

37 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:16:52.38
It's over for them the moment they can't even put the blame on KimuTaku
39 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:17:13.10
But it'll definitely flop. Don't blame Keiko Kitagawa.
41 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:17:21.93

HERO will get the ratings regardless of who's cast. That's if they can recreate it with the same quality.
42 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:17:25.68
I don't think that it'll be a major bomb, but I guess that it will just be so-so
45 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:18:52.37
Even if it flops, people can just say "because it's from Fuji" so no problems for Kitagawa's side
47 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:19:17.45
I'm gonna watch if Kitagawa does a Sailor Moon cosplay
48 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:19:22.02
キムタクの視聴率が良かったのって、華麗なる一族あたりが最後? その後は右肩下がりだっけね。
数字が悪いと共演者と脚本のせいにされんだよなぁ。 キムタク以外の出演、スタッフには旨味がないな。

Was Karei naru ichizoku the last KimuTaku drama that had good ratings? Then it just went on a decline from there, right? If KimuTaku's drama ratings are good, it's thanks to KimuTaku. But if the ratings are bad, the co-stars and the screenplay take the stick. There's just nothing good out of this for the cast and the staff, everyone except KimuTaku.
52 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:19:58.18
If this gets about 10% from the waning Fuji then you can call it a success
57 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:22:11.84

I never really thought anything about her in the past, but she really is pretty. She's slim, but she's got nice curves on her body line.
60 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:23:26.50 ID:/
だいたい破天荒っていうか非常識なだけだが、若いうちはまだいいけど、いつまで経ってもそんなだと現実のキムタクそのまんまで萎えるわ。 ついでに北川と吉高と桐谷はもう見たくない。

The moment Takako Matsu avoided this already signalled doom for this.
That eccentric and absurd character was good while he was young, but it's so unappealing if the current KimuTaku would still portray it that way.
And another thing, I don't want to see Kitagawa, Yoshitaka, and Kiritani anymore.

93 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:32:58.37 ID:Mk/
桐谷は出るドラマ全部コケてるからほっといたら消えると思う 吉高は朝ドラヒットしてるしまだまだ出るだろうね
All dramas Kiritani's been in have been bombing so I think she'll eventually disappear even if you just let her be. Yoshitaka's morning drama is a hit so I think she'll be having more exposure moving forward.

62 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:24:00.25 ID:D2i0v/
悪夢ちゃん未だ普通に上映しているからはコケてないだろ。 北川と松を比べるより、木村人気の今と昔を比較するだろ。
Akumu-chan's still running in cinemas so you can't really call that a flop. And instead of comparing between Kitagawa and Matsu, I think it makes more sense to compare Kimura's popularity then and now.
64 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:24:46.07
If Takako Matsu was a no-go then they should've just cast Haruka Ayase who was already there in the previous one
66 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:25:24.72
It just means that Takako Matsu has achieved a status where she doesn't even have to appear in serial dramas anymore

85 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:30:03.23
She'll be in Oyaji no Senaka which will begin in June. It's not a serial drama as it will just be a story per episode.

79 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:28:35.57

It looks seriously boring without Matsu. Did she really decline the offer?
117 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:43:45.60
Takako Matsu's already 37, so maybe she can't do romantic flicks anymore?
68 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:25:42.84
数字が取れないからHEROっていう看板に頼るんだろ? 木村でも北川でもない、制作側の責任だろ
And now they come back to rely on the HERO brand just because they've been struggling to get ratings. It's neither Kimura's nor Kitagawa's fault, it's all the producer's responsibility.
71 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:26:11.29

Keiko Kitagawa sure is fine, I bought her photo book. Well, I won't be watching this drama though.
72 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:26:21.40

Wow, Kimura will still be in a Monday-9? w
He's sure hanging in there, huh w
94 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:33:21.41 ID:hDs//
みんなその時間は働いている。バブルの時のように給料が上がるような残業じゃない。潰れないための残業だよ。 会社がつぶれたら次がない、サービス残業だろうとなんだろうと、給料が出るなら働くよ。そんな時代にあほなドラマ作ってんなボケ。

It's not a matter of casting KimuTaku or not, it's just that we're not in an era where people can just sit back, relax, and watch TV on a Monday night anymore.
Everyone works at that time. And it's not overtime work so you can have more money like during the bubble economy. They're doing overtime these days so the company won't go bankrupt. Whether people are in the services industry or whatever, people will work as long as there's pay, since there will be no more tomorrow if the company closes. So don't go making dramas at times like these, jerks!
73 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:26:23.99
I remember watching the first episode of the old series and realizing that it wasn't KimuTaku who's good but more like the police were too stupid. I just stopped after that.
80 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:28:37.51 ID:r/
なんで北川が戦犯扱い? 主役は木村なんだから木村の責任だろ
Why will Kitagawa be the scapegoat? Kimura's the lead so it has to be his responsibility.
83 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:29:26.78
やっぱチョマテヨも老けたな というドラマになるだろう
I'm guessing that this will be a drama where we'll all say
"Cho mateyo has really gotten old"
89 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:31:58.70

I honestly thought Ando Lloyd was fun.
I hope they do that again without giving a crap about ratings.
90 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:32:20.93
Come to think of it, I haven't been seeing Yuji Oda anymore after her leading lady was deemed the scapegoat
95 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:33:27.21
FujiTV, station of rehashes and three-hashes
99 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:36:14.87
ええええ!! 何で松たかこじゃないの?! 価値ないじゃん! 北川は嫌いじゃないけど
Ehhhhh!! No Takako Matsu!? Then this is worthless! Not that I hate Kiatagawa, though.
109 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:40:12.45

It'll be KimuTaku's fault if it flops, but Keiko Kitagawa never really brings in ratings in the first place
115 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:43:05.27 ID:lbwi/
美人 ヒーローはどうだろうね。初回と最終回が18%でその他が15%って感じかな

Keiko Kitagawa's period flick set in the restaurant was good. She was really pretty there. I wonder how HERO will turn out. I'm guessing 18% for the first episode and the finale, then everything else will hover around 15%. I'm also curious about the theme song.

118 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:43:57.57

Fuji loves to pin all the responsibility on specific individuals for the ratings. That's not how it is, it's all because their employees are talentless and have zero sense.
128 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:48:53.05
Keiko Kitagawa's pretty clever, so I get the feeling that she'll survive in the industry even if she's past her prime
130 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:50:03.42
キムタクと北川だと身長はいいけど顔のサイズ大丈夫? 横に並べるの?
KimuTaku and Kitagawa may be a good fit height-wise, but what about the size of their faces? Will they be put together side by side?
131 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:50:17.67

I guess it's really about the strength of one's agency backing him up. Even in Haruna Kawaguchi's case, she was the co-lead (in Otto no Kanojo) together with Sawa Suzuki, but all the reports pointed to Haruna Kawaguchi and pinned all the blame on her.
136 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:52:04.56

14.4% ブザービート
16.9% 月の恋人(篠原・リンの下)
15.9% 謎解きはディナー
11.4% 独身貴族
**.*% HERO

Johnny's lead + Keiko Kitagawa as the heroine

14.4% Buzzer Beat
16.9% Tsuki no Koibito (Next to Shinohara and Lin)
15.9% Nazotoki wa dinner
11.4% Dokushin Kizoku
**.*% HERO
180 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 14:12:58.91
悪くても13~14% 良くて18%くらいでしょ。
無難にまとまり、これ以降の 続編無しって感じじゃね

Worst case 13~14% 18% tops, probably.
I think it'll be acceptable, but will have no more sequels in the future.
352 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 16:37:04.62
Ando Lloyd was the only drama in 20 years where KimuTaku never managed to get above 20% for even 1 episode
140 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:53:39.23 ID:D7NREn7/
老けただけで他は何も変わらないでキムタクのドジな後輩役なんて絵的にも無理あり過ぎ 彼女が出るならキムタクより優秀な検事になってなきゃおかしいから

Matsu herself has earned considerable dignity as an actress along with her age. Just the thought of someone like her still playing the role of KimuTaku's clumsy little kouhai is too much of a stretch. If she were to be in the drama, it'd all be so weird if she wasn't a prosecutor who's much better than KimuTaku. How could she be cast in these circumstances?
143 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:54:48.11 ID:22J/
Takako Matsu has really become a distant figure
144 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:55:25.23
Matsu has turned into an actress where it'll be a waste unless she's the lead of a movie
155 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 13:59:49.04

I wanted Takako Matsu and Abe-chan to take part in this, but a 37-y/o and 50-y/o reprising their roles and retaining those personalities will be tough to watch
175 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 14:10:20.04
惜しかったな 松が歌えば20パーいったのにw
Too bad, they would've gotten 20% if Matsu were to sing here w
165 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 14:06:10.35 ID:D7NREn7/
Will he still try to portray someone younger than his age, with long hair and that brown jumper?
171 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 14:09:12.93
映画でいいからキムタクはちゃんとした 悪役やれよ
KimuTaku should actually be portraying a proper villain, even in a movie
206 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 14:39:32.30
HEROかぁ、悔しいが好きなんだよなぁ。しっかりと作れば平均11%くらいイクだろ ちょっと今期ドラマが何気に中身が濃い良作がぽつんぽつんあったからなぁ 真面目にしっかり作れば良さげなんじゃね、ネームバリュあるし
HERO, huh. Damn, I actually like this franchise. If they just put effort into this, I think it would at least get an average of 11%. There were quite a number of good dramas with rich plots this season. They should just do this diligently. It also has the name value to boot.
244 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 15:03:26.67
I would've watched if Hiroshi Abe was in it
290 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 15:45:07.45
阿部だろ こけたらヒロインのせいにするのは

Ando Lloyd was KimuTaku's only drama in 20 years which got below 15%, but Shibasaki was never blamed, and all the bashing was directed at KimuTaku. It's actually Abe's camp who blames the heroine when he bombs.
316 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 16:06:00.50

I don't think it'll be a hit, but it won't be a massive flop either. The first episode will probably get over 15%, then will teeter around 13%.
317 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 16:06:09.96
松だけでなく、阿部ちゃん、大塚寧々、勝村、児玉さんもいない 見た目いい人いなくなって、演技派のおっさんばかり 犯人役によっぽどの人が出てこないと、絵面が悪い
Not just Matsu, but there's no Abe-chan, Nene Ohtsuka, Katsumura nor Kodama-san. There's no one who looks good, and it's all these old guys who are just good at acting. It'll visually look bad unless there's a really good villain.
174 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/22(日) 14:10:19.29
I find it amusing how they're already looking for the scapegoat even before the drama starts

Original Thread: 【芸能】北川景子、木村拓哉(41)主演「HERO」コケたら“戦犯”扱いに(関係者談) 

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