Friday, February 7, 2014

"Japanese Beethoven" Mamoru Samuragochi reveals that he's been using a ghost writer


1: パニックスイッチφ ★ 2014/02/05 14:40:36
(Summarized)

* Mamoru Samuragochi revealed through his lawyer that a ghost writer has been composing for him, including his highly acclaimed "Symphony #1 HIROSHIMA" which sold over 180,000 -- a rarity for a classical piece. 

* "Symphony #1 HIROSHIMA" was completed in 2003, was first performed in 2008 and received plaudits from critics. This was also included in the CD released after the great Eastern Japan disaster in 2011 and was even called "the symphony of hope".

* Samuragochi started letting someone else write music for him from 1996 when he was asked to score the music for a movie. His hearing impairment worstened at that time, and he revealed that he let someone else write over half of the music.

* He asked a composer whom he met at this time to write the music for him, by telling the composer about the song and the arrangement he had in mind, then paid a fee to the ghost writer.

* Samuragochi: "I created the structure of the song, but I let someone else write for me. I believe that this is a huge betrayal on my part. I apologize from the bottom of my heart for hurting my fans and the listeners".

* The name of the ghost writer is Takashi Niigaki, who worked with Samuragochi for 18 years.


Source: http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140205/t10015025061000.html 


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1: :禿の月φ 2013/10/11 18:40:18
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Interview on the program Miyaneya (Mr. A = Niigaki)


Q. Since when did Mr. A start doing his requests?

A. 1996. For the theme song of the movie Cosmos.

Q. Why didn't he compose his own songs, and started asking Mr. A to do it for him?

A. Samuragochi cannot read or write a music sheet. He has never taken formal classical lessons. But he was obsessed with orchestra music.

Q. Why did Mr. A decide to come clean? 

A. Around November of last year, Shuukan Bunshun published an article with the title "Is Samuragochi genuine?". And most of the things written there were accurate. Mr. A was also surprised at all the lies written in Samuragochi's book which he read in July. Especially the fact that he completely copied Mr. A's piano lesson history and applied it to his own. They talked about putting an end to this numerous times, but Samuragochi kept saying "We'll continue this". This isn't about money. Mr. A just wants to have a clean conscience.

(As of this post, Niigaki had already held a press conference and confessed several facts. More about this in a future post.)



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53: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05(水) 18:01:06.23 ID:9xcIsrdN0
新垣さんすげー気が弱そうな顔してるな
脅されて殆どギャラももらってなさそう……
Niigaki-san has such a timid face...
He must've been threatened, and probably doesn't even receive any compensation...
315: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05(水) 18:46:15.77 ID:djBRUXJR0
新垣隆作曲 「インヴェンション あるいは 倒置法 III」 
Takashi Niigaki's composition "Invention or Inversion III"

334: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05(水) 18:49:26.46 ID:iPE0/Fly0
>>315
これまた新垣の師匠の、三善晃テイストなw
どーも奇をてらった前衛モードは好きになれない
This sounds similar to the style of Niigaki's mentor, Akira Miyoshi. w
I really can't get myself to like this eccentric, advanced mode.
345: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05(水) 18:51:15.87 ID:v223p1AH0
>>315
こりゃ佐村河内持ち上げてた吉松とかが嫌いそうな曲だなあw
This sounds like a song that Yoshimatsu, the guy who praised Samuragochi, would hate w
86: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05(水) 18:05:50.63 ID:djBRUXJR0
もっとわかりやすい曲を作りたかったんだろうけど、それを自分の名前で発表するのは気恥ずかしいから他人の名前で発表したんじゃないのか?
Maybe he wanted to make simpler songs, but he was ashamed of using his name, so he used someone else's?
159: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05(水) 18:20:10.30 ID:HqJlT+oL0
>>86
今日のミヤネ屋で、「佐村河内から本当のことバラスと自殺する」と脅されていたと
報道されてたわw
In today's Miyaneya, they reported that "Niigaki was threatened that Samuragochi would commit suicide if this fact was revealed" w
167: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05(水) 18:20:55.46 ID:2FiE/3zA0
>>159
脅される顔してるわ
His face does look like someone who's easily threatened
170: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05(水) 18:21:12.05 ID:RAX6scHu0
ググって気弱そうだな…と思ったら既にさんざん言われててわろた
I Googled him and thought that "Wow, this guy looks so timid"... and LOL'd at how everyone's been saying that
203: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05(水) 18:27:58.70 ID:fqQn0aZJ0
代作はもうしないと断ったら、作らないと桐朋にも居られなくしてやると
恐喝されて、ゴーストさんが告白っていうのが真実だと思う。
風貌からして、彼から仕掛けることはありえないだろう。
I think what happened here is:
N: "I won't write for you anymore."
S: "Then I'll make sure that you won't be able to stay in Toho (school of music) if you don't."
And so the ghost came clean.
Judging by his looks, I don't think he's the one who initiated this.
16: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:44:08 ID:mEuQqUIL0
コロムビアの稼ぎ頭だったのにどうするんだろうね
回収騒ぎになれば面白いのに
He was the main money earner of Columbia Japan, I wonder what will happen.
It'd be interesting if they start recalling the CDs.
23: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:44:39 ID:qxGAapYKO
耳が聞こえないのも嘘だったりして
Maybe him being deaf is also a lie
55: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:49:58 ID:kW43pmsQ0
>>23
当時の実況スレで、実は聞こえてるんじゃないかと結構疑われていた。
In fact, there were also a lot of opinions on the live threads that he could actually hear.
113: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:54:46 ID:Y/ILhNd30
こいつの裏で爆竹鳴らせば一発で判る
You'll find out in an instant if you set off a firecracker behind this guy
27: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:45:37 ID:a81Z40JA0
聴力なかったら、視力にすごく頼ると思うのに生活しにくそうなサングラスかけてるねぇ
If he can't hear, then I'd assume that he'd rely heavily on his eyesight, but why is he wearing sunglasses, eh?


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83: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:52:32 ID:vmSE8RBC0
>>27
挙動不審さを隠すためじゃないの
目の動きでウソは分かる
Maybe that's in order to make himself less suspicious.
You can easily tell if someone's lying with their eyes.
54: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:49:56 ID:uzYuP1n50
楽譜読めない書けないってソースはミヤネ?
Is Miyane the source saying that he can't read or write musical sheets?
70: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:51:00 ID:G9GZA1Eg0
>>54
うん
ゴーストライターを取材した人が聞いてきた話
楽譜は読めない書けない
子供時代のエピソードはゴーストライターの人の子供時代の話のパクリ
Yes.
Those were what that show's reporter asked the ghost writer.
He can't read or write scores.
And his track record when he was a kid was all copied from the ghost writer.
79: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:52:27 ID:uzYuP1n50
>>70
ありがと
ひでえw

これでたらめ書いてたのか
Thanks
That's horrible w

So all of this was just nonsense, huh.  
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117: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:55:07 ID:KcoXb13w0
>>79
人を騙すって最低だな
He's the worst for trying to trick people
122: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:55:56 ID:MA8daPne0
>>79
これ必死に書いてる振りしてるかと思うと、腹いてーw
My stomach hurts when I think that he's trying to look like he's writing desperately w
91: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:53:01 ID:LfWoiQQB0
ニュースウォッチ9でも特集してて
被災地のクソ寒いところにいって感性磨くみたいなことやってたけど
やってることが麻原ショーコーくせーと内心思ってたが
ビンゴだったかw
He was featured on Newswatch 9 once, then he went to a damn freezing place at the disaster-stricken area in order to strengthen his sensitivity. I thought then that the stuff he does is similar to what Shoko Asahara did, and bingo, I was correct w
110: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:54:18 ID:8Wk4iExY0
つーかゴーストライター才能ありすぎだろwwww
表出てきたら仕事笛まくりだろwwwww
The ghost writer's so talented then wwww
Then he'll probably receive tons of jobs once he comes out in public. wwwww
124: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:56:46 ID:G9GZA1Eg0
子供時代のレッスンの思い出までパクられたら
嫌になるだろうなぁ・・・
It would really make you feel bad if even your childhood background was copied as is...
144: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 14:59:08 ID:/s7Susa+0
佐村河内守のゴーストライターは新垣隆だった
(ふかわりょう(ROCKETMAN))

ベートーベンの作品が偉大なのは、耳が不自由だからではない。

Ryo Fukawa (ROCKETMAN)

The reason why Beethoven's works were great isn't because he was deaf.
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164: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 15:01:11 ID:BVC9tO+Y0
>>144
お前、後出しじゃんけんはずるくないか?
Hey you, don't you feel like a cheat for saying this after the results are out?
156: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 15:00:21 ID:+tSeEGHzO
ピアノやってるのに、喧嘩三昧でしたとかいうエピソードな時点で既にありえないw
母親にピアノを教えられた、とは言ってるけど、ピアノ教師とは言ってなかったり
10歳でバッハをひきこなす、のが敢えてのエピソードだったりww
明らかに音楽に触れてこなかった人が想像しただろうエピソードばっかりで、これに騙された人がいるのが笑える
The fact that they said that he used to fight with other kids all day back then despite playing the piano was already stupid w
They said that his mother taught him how to play, but they didn't say anything about a piano teacher. And that he was already able to play Bach by 10? ww
It's obviously a back story that someone who's never been connected to music would come up with. And it's laughable when I think about how there are some people who were fooled by this.
171: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 15:02:33 ID:MA8daPne0
>>156
なぜか、やんちゃエピソード入れたくなるんだろうな
People always want to include these naughty back stories to their profile for some reason
252: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 15:14:41 ID:OxENZyLS0
>>156
こいつのwikiとか興味なかったから見てなかったが
これ笑えるなw
よくこんなんに騙された奴いたもんだな
10歳でバッハとか、彼の演技の出発点は学芸会の村人役ってレベルだろww
I never had any interest so I didn't look at this guy's wiki, but this is funny w
I'm amazed how he was able to fool people with this.
Bach at 10? But his acting roots is on the same level as someone who started acting as "one of those extra villagers" in a school play ww
634: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 16:08:02 ID:hZjbGXGE0
意見交換なんかしたらボロ出るもんなあ

Q.指揮者との意見交換は?

「特にありません。自分なりの鉄則というものがありまして、頭の中で完成させた自分の作品は、一度腹を痛めて生んでしまったものですから。楽譜に書いてあるとおりにやってください、それだけです。リハにも立ち会わ

ないです。もともとこの曲は生きているうちに演奏されるとは思っていなかったんです。いつか時代が変わって原点回帰して、誰かがこの楽譜を拾って、演奏されたらいいなという気持ちで書いたので」
Well, his cover would have been blown if he ever held discussions with the conductor.

Q. Did you exchange opinions with the conductor?
"Not really. I have my own principles, these works that I have created in my head were all born from hard labor. I just want them to do exactly as what's written on the score sheet. That's it. I won't even go to the rehearsals. I never even expected for this piece to be played while I was still alive. I just wrote it in the hope that someone decides to pick this up and play it when the times have changed and people decide to return to their roots.
678: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/02/05 16:13:47 ID:iPE0/Fly0
>>634
あーw やっちまったなーwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
普通な、初演作品のリハの最中ですら、
作曲者がどんどん変更していくのすら知らないのかこいつwwwwwww
本番直前までそれが続くもんだぜーw

やっぱモグリ丸出しだなwwwwwwwwwww
Ahhh w He's done it with that wwwwwwwwwwwww
Doesn't this guy even know that the composer would go and modify the songs even as his first work is being rehearsed? wwwwwwww
And that will continue on until the actual performance w
He really showed how much of a quack he is here wwwwwwwwwwwwww
648 :名無しさん@恐縮です:2014/02/05(水) 16:09:58.74 ID:OG6YJ7sO0
誰かサムラゴウチの横で爆竹鳴らすドッキリしかけろw 
Someone, go surprise Samuragochi and set off firecrackers beside him w




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