マジで!? MAJI DE!?: Why is Nana Mizuki consistently able to perform at the Kouhaku?

Saturday, January 11, 2014

Why is Nana Mizuki consistently able to perform at the Kouhaku?

1：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:30:26.14 ID:CfniIZV5

代表曲特になし

何故紅白に出れてるのかも謎な模様
She doesn't really have a career-defining song.
And it's still a mystery as to why she is still able to participate at the Kouhaku every year.

http://cloud.comtrya.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/nana-mizuki-synchrogazer-splash_thumb1.jpg

2：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:30:53.12 ID:P2yO8CTo

アニメ枠やけど別に不思議でもないやろ
She's there for the "anime slot", and I don't think it's a mystery

4：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:31:08.07 ID:DWPpA+rC

代表曲無しとかわろた

にわかなのが露呈するね(ﾆｯｺﾘ)

LOLing that you're saying she's got no song that represents who she is.
You're exposing that you don't know anything (grins)

5：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:31:38.37 ID:rsuAAMHW

やっぱり歯が気になるよね
You can't help but be concerned about her teeth

http://img5.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/ba/c6/tk19651212kojima/folder/433101/img_433101_10689471_14?1312380002.jpg

http://image.news.livedoor.com/newsimage/b/a/baa8c61def70522948809ca0d1ef33c8.jpg

6：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:31:40.78 ID:cNmO2HW0

どの曲も同じに聴こえる
All her songs sound the same

9：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:32:28.76 ID:KLz2w69F: >>6
これって絶対聴いてないくせにネットの評判に惑わされてる馬鹿だよな
You're definitely one of those fools who don't listen and just believe what you read on the net

10：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:33:25.39 ID:KaRJL81p

NHKでやっすい仕事頑張ると

ご褒美に紅白に出して貰えるらしいで
I heard that NHK will let you participate in the Kouhaku as a reward for doing some cheap jobs for them

11：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:33:25.77 ID:Or7owA3u

アニメ界の聖域
She's at the mecca in the anime world

14：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:35:01.46 ID:gZrwC+j/

ごめんけど即ハボ
Sorry, I'd bang her in a heart beat

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/netaatoz/imgs/b/e/be158613-s.jpg

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/apricotcom/imgs/8/7/87a4f37c.jpg

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nana_mizuki_yuzz/imgs/9/1/91c3d148.jpg

http://blog-imgs-34.fc2.com/1/2/3/123456nanatan/20101217115144b41.jpg

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/atsutomoblog/imgs/5/7/574c6e9d.jpg?c33ffa19

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/oppaiero/imgs/4/1/41ccb682.jpg

16：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:35:10.04 ID:UXFQmmX+

オルゴールとピアノとがあるやん
She has "Orgel and piano"

17：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:35:26.86 ID:rWVFdKkx

紅白出場歌手の中ではCD売上でいうと軽く上位に食い込むんちゃうか

和田アキ子とか演歌歌手が出て当たり前みたいな顔して出てるけど

I think she's easily in the top half of all the Kouhaku singers when it comes to CD sales.
Even when the likes Akiko Wada and the other Enka singers act as if it's just natural for them to be there.

29：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:37:55.30 ID:ExZgbDZY: >>17

女性ソロで売り上げや動員は3番手争うくらいって聞いた
トップがアムロ、浜崎沈没で
I heard that she's battling for 3rd now in female solo sales and concert attendance, with Amuro on top and now that Hamasaki has fallen

22：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:36:15.56 ID:W7IqvZnJ

複数売り抜かせばオリコン年間シングルランキング2位やで
If you remove the multi-variant sellers, she's 2nd this year on Oricon for the yearly tally of single sales

25：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:37:17.14 ID:FLxrdeA/

女性ソロだと安室の次くらいに売れてるから紅白出るのは当然やろ
She's just next to Amuro in female solo artist sales so of course she gets to be at the Kouhaku

30：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:38:34.87 ID:hnjM3z1i

・全部同じ曲

・オタクが貢いでるだけで一般社会にまるで浸透していない

・美人風だが美人ではない

- All songs are the same
- It's just that otakus are pouring in their money for her, and she hasn't really sunk in with the general society
- She may seem beautiful, but she isn't

37：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:39:38.96 ID:CfniIZV5: >>30

あんだけ紅白出てんのに一般人は曲全く知らんからな

金爆の方がまだ認知度がある
She's been at all those Kouhakus, but the general public doesn't know her songs.
People know Golden Bomber better.

40：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:40:04.40 ID:DWPpA+rC: >>30
アニソン歌手が一般社会に浸透することなんてねーよバーカ
There's no way an anime singer will sink in with the general public, you fool

32：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:39:12.86 ID:DWPpA+rC

2chって水樹奈々を認めたがらない奴多すぎないか？
Why are there a lot of people on 2ch who don't want to approve of Nana Mizuki?

34：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:39:21.22 ID:JDktcCYj

馬鹿「全部同じに聴こえる」

なお全部聴いたことは無い模様

Fools: "All songs sound the same"
But it seems that they have never even heard all of her songs

35：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:39:29.08 ID:HWJcjed7

全部同じ歌い方ならわかるけど
全部同じ曲はちょっと言い過ぎ

I'd understand it if you say that she sings the same way in all her songs, but saying that all songs are the same is too much.

38：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:39:57.77 ID:9al0feWO

紅白で歌った曲
親愛(2009)
PHANTM MINDS(2010)
POP MASTER(2011)
BRIGHT STREAM(2012)

これだけしか聴いた事ないとしても同じ曲にしか聴こえないってのは耳が腐ってるんじゃないですかねぇ

Songs she performed at the Kouhaku
Shinai (2009)
PHANTOM MINDS (2010)
POP MASTER (2011)
BRIGHT STREAM (2012)

Even if you only heard these songs and you say that her songs sound the same then your ears must be rotten

42：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:40:06.91 ID:qbeBNUok

眞鍋かをりに似てるなぁと思ってたらいつのまにかただのおばさんになった模様
I thought she looked like Kaori Manabe, but before I knew it, she just turned into an old woman

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/domesaka/imgs/c/5/c532bf23.jpg

43：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:40:29.17 ID:D+U/uLNy

歌唱力は今の歌手の中じゃ一番やと思う
Of all the singers now, I think her singing ability is number one

49：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:41:49.77 ID:9DsAA+bP

紅白はいろんなジャンルから出すからね

声優枠があってもいいんじゃない
A lot of different genres are featured at the Kouhaku so I think there's nothing wrong with having a slot there for seiyuus

51：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:42:01.77 ID:Or7owA3u

ビブラートしとけばほめてくれるオタク
Otakus will praise you as long as you do vibratos

52：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:42:17.50 ID:W7IqvZnJ

現実で人気あるEXILEやAKBがネットでは叩かれてるのと同じやろ

TV露出増えてから急にアンチ増えたし

It's just the same as EXILE and AKB who are popular, but are bashed on the Internet right now.
Her haters suddenly increased in number as soon as her TV exposure increased.

54：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:42:51.72 ID:xdGir8B1

水樹のおかげて今のオタクの地位があるのに

The otakus hold their current status right now thanks to Mizuki

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/futamato/imgs/0/5/05028801.jpg

58：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:42:59.28 ID:0GmT9JJ0

一般人は誰も知らないなんて言ってる奴は外で誰とも話さないネットでは情強くんだろ

普通に知ってる人増えてるわ
People who say that the general public doesn't know her must be the ones who don't talk at all with anyone outside their houses and just pretend to be like savants on the Internet world, right? More people have started to know who she is.

96：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:51:51.74 ID:nAnoCrbo: >>58
アニメ好きな奴は確かにみんな知ってるが、アニメとか全く見ない興味ないやつはみんな知らないぞ
All people who like anime know her, but those who don't watch anime at all aren't aware of her at all

60：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:43:14.72 ID:g/0mjhBv

オシャレ演歌
Fashionable enka

64：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:43:39.51 ID:R2242EvZ

さだまさしとデュエットしたやつ下手すぎてマッマ激怒してたわ
My mom got pissed at how bad she was when she had that duet with Masashi Sada

73：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:45:11.23 ID:mjTP8F8y

スロ打つ奴らはバジリスクのおかげで聴いたことはやるやろ

紅白でも歌えばええやん

ワイルドアイズかヒメムラサキを

People who play the slots probably know her songs because of Basilisk.
She should sing her songs "Wild Eyes" and "Himemurasaki" at the Kouhaku.

78：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:47:45.89 ID:ExZgbDZY: >>73

ワイルドアイズ流れるとテンション上がるわｗ

水樹の曲、テンション上がるってのあるな

売れてなくても不思議じゃないが、人気あるのも不思議じゃないわ

好きな人は好きなタイプやろ、曲も歌い方も
I get really excited when I hear "Wild Eyes" playing w
Mizuki has some songs which raise your tension.
It won't be strange even if she doesn't sell well, but it's also not strange if she does.
There are people who like those kinds of songs and singing method.

74：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:46:03.27 ID:XF60MzZW

そもそも紅白なんてNMBとか誰も知らんようなやつでも出れるしな

紅白出れるっていうのは別に凄いことじゃない

去年はナオトなんとかとかいうのもおったし

Kouhaku's a program where a group like NMB that no one knows gets to perform.
Performing at the show isn't that big of a deal.
There was even this Naoto-something last year.

83：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:49:02.40 ID:nAnoCrbo: >>74
ナオトインティライミは結構有名やしそこそこ売れたんだよなぁ
Naoto Inti Raymi's pretty popular, and he sold quite a few

76：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:46:54.58 ID:W7IqvZnJ

フジやNHKの音楽番組出まくってるし、そら知名度上がるよ

オタクだけじゃアルバム10万も売れんし

She's all over Fuji and NHK's music programs, of course people would know who she is.
You won't sell over 100,000 copies with just otakus.

79：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:47:47.98 ID:7g0wDZSH

キモオタだけかと思いきや若い女が結構聴いてる
I thought her fanbase only consists of kimo-otas, but younger girls are actually listening to her

87：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:49:31.03 ID:ExZgbDZY: >>79

つか、たぶんもうそっちのが数多いで。わりとマジで

あんま男に受ける楽曲ちゃうやろ。女性歌手って結局女性支持ないと持たん
I actually think that she has more of those kinds of fans. And I'm serious here.
I don't think her songs appeal that much to men. So female singers still need support from their fellow women as well in order to survive, huh.

86：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:49:29.53 ID:W7IqvZnJ

ライブ行くと明らかにパチから入ったって分かる金髪DQNが結構いて草生える
When you go to her concerts, you can see a lot of blonde delinquents there who obviously got into her through pachinko. That just makes me LOL

89：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:50:06.62 ID:MYxajtbb

http://imgur.com/1w88DYw.jpg

91：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:50:11.15 ID:Or7owA3u

そんなに売れてるならお前のばあちゃんでも歌える水樹奈々の曲教えろや
If she's that popular then name a song of hers that your grandma can sing

100：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:52:31.67 ID:xsBHTP0Z: >>91

ババアが知っとるかどうか知らんが

今年のアルバム年間トップ50位確実やで

それくらい売れとる
I don't know if my grandma knows, but her album this year will be able to get into the top 50 for the entire year.
That's how much she's selling.

103：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:53:30.51 ID:cm4wrjU3

ねんどろになってたな
She also got her Nedoroid figure

http://i.gzn.jp/img/2013/05/20/nendoroid-tamurayukari-mizukinana/00_m.jpg

104：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:53:50.42 ID:ExZgbDZY

アニメファンからすれば不満だが

歌手実績からすれば当然、ってやつやなｗ
The anime fans probably aren't satisfied by it, but if you see her track record as a singer, there's no way she doesn't get to perform w

108：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:54:04.92 ID:UofKAHZZ

RUSH&DASHを超える名曲はない
There isn't a song that can surpass "RUSH&DASH"

109：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:54:52.70 ID:D+U/uLNy

アイマスガールズは一度くらいは紅白でてもいいよな
それくらいの実績はある

I think the Aimasu* girls should get to perform at the Kouhaku at least once.

They have the track record to back it up.

* Idol Master

http://i.imgur.com/Bi4xX.jpg

119：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:56:10.08 ID:9al0feWO: >>109

ねーよ

今年やっとSSAやで

アイマスガールズ好きだけど流石に場違い

色んな意味で
No way.
SSA barely this year.
I like the Aimasu girls but they're totally out of place.
In a lot of different senses.

114：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:55:37.51 ID:8wrGmbP/

TMのバーターからパートナーへ
From TM's barter to his partner

121：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:57:17.21 ID:8q+23+CZ

水樹奈々ですらお茶の間凍ってんのにアイマスとか勘弁
Nana Mizuki's already enough to freeze the air of families watching her, don't bring Aimasu into that event

123：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:57:56.15 ID:CJTk3g+X

シングルが5万以上売れる声優は水樹以外いないが一応最新作で15作連続5万以上打ってる模様

西川兄貴とコラボしたのを含めると17作連続と声優界のアーティストでは大正義すぎる怪物やな

There aren't any other seiyuus who can sell over 50,000 singles, and it seems that she's gone over 50,000 for the 15th consecutive time with her latest release.

If you include the ones in which she collaborated with Nishikawa-Aniki then that makes it 17 straight. She's a beast, and the great justice within the idol world.

126：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 02:00:25.66 ID:oCCYSPJg

最近声優活動してんの？

歌手が本業になっとるやん

Is she still active as a voice actress these days?
Looks like her main line of work now is as a singer.

132：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 02:01:48.89 ID:orm7ZkvP: >>126
吹き替えとナレーターのレギュラーがあるで
She has regulars for her dubs and narration

128：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 02:00:53.70 ID:LPZ+qdim

むしろこの人でアニメ枠埋まっててくれないと次なに出てくるか分かったもんじゃない
This person should actually just keep filling in that anime slot at the Kouhaku, or else no one would be able to imagine what sort of thing would come out next

105：風吹けば名無し 2013/11/24(日) 01:53:51.56 ID:P2yO8CTo

この時代にCdが売れてる人を層がオタクだからって天下のNHKがシカトは出来ないでしょ

お前らが気に入るかどうかは二の次よ

In this day and age, there's no way the great NHK can just ignore someone who sells a lot of CDs just because her fanbase consists of otakus.

NHK doesn't give a damn if you guys would like your choices or not.

Original Thread

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Why is Nana Mizuki consistently able to perform at the Kouhaku?

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