Tuesday, January 28, 2014

Otaku (38) to AKB's Karen Iwata (15): "Please marry me" → gets turned down → Ota sues AKB management




1: ダイビングエルボードロップ(埼玉県) 2014/01/26 18:20:20 ID:dhBOoiF6P
AKB岩田華怜ファンの大西秀宜
Karen Iwata's fan Hidenobu Onishi

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/mashlife/imgs/6/a/6a6e0d73-s.jpg


I just filed a lawsuit on 1/21. I brought up various facts, but the bottomline here is that I want to prove in this trial that they (AKS) have a relatively evil business model by forcing the member to treat the fans who have become extremely close friends with the member harshly so that the fans will change their "oshi".

By the way, I spilled the beans about the wrongdoings of Hitachi, but I still got dismissed for disciplinary reasons, and previously filed this lawsuit:

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/mashlife/imgs/a/0/a0b9ba46-s.jpg



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(Continued after the jump)





1: ダイビングエルボードロップ(埼玉県) 2014/01/26 18:20:20 ID:dhBOoiF6P
The complainant knew that he wouldn't be getting a good response from Karen Iwata but still made a 'promise' that "I'm not sure if it will take 8 years, or even 10 years but please marry me".
Karen Iwata then said "please don't do that anymore. It's really troublesome...". Karen Iwata gave a sign to end the handshake and the complainant was moved away from the handshake lane.
The complainant first participated in the handshake event in October of the same year. He was given the nickname "O-nichan" by Iwata.




http://onicchan.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/ 
http://plus.google.com/103299321834603136878/ 



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2: 栓抜き攻撃(三重県) 2014/01/26 18:21:25 ID:zDsIzqFF0
そりゃこの顔じゃ仕方ない
Well, with a face like this, it can't be helped










3: ダイビングエルボードロップ(埼玉県) 2014/01/26 18:21:32 ID:dhBOoiF6P
大西秀宜のブログ
伊達娘(※岩田華怜)にフラれましたw 2013/11/23 11:32:37
http://onicchan.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2013/11/w-a041.html
以前より、どうも運営が言わせてるっぽいと思っているのですが。
やりとりとしては、「さっき確認してきたら、手紙ちゃんと渡っとるやん!
どうも伊達娘はウソついたりするからなあ。。。」って言った後に、
「お約束だけど、言うわ。8年後か10年後かわからないけど、結婚してください。」
と言ったら、ひと呼吸置いた後に、
「ホントそういうのやめてください。迷惑なんで・・・」
と言って、係員にサインしたので、そこで終了になってしまいました。
運営的には、ワタシがフラれたことにしたいんだと思います。
握手の直前、2列横にひらりーがいて、たまたま手を振ったら、ニコッと振り返してくれました。
ひらりーは、ワタシがワシントン公演に行ったときも、ワタシがいるのがわかった!と言ってくれたので、ワタシを知っているはずです。
ホントに嫌われ者ならば、ひらりーもそこまでしないハズなので、やはり運営の意図と思います。
まあ、どんなリアクションがあろうとも、ワタシ自身がクチでちゃんと言えたからいいのです。
伊達娘も、AKBの組織に従順過ぎますが、まあ致し方ないでしょう。明日はまた違うハナシをします。まあコレで、ヲタが騒ぐんやろなあ。

Hidenobu Onishi's blog

It did seem like the management was just making her say those things.
The conversation went like, "But when I checked earlier, they said that my letter actually reached you! Geez, Date-musume (Karen) really tells lies sometimes...". After I said that, I continued, "Anyway, I'm telling you this. I'm not sure if it will take 8 years, or even 10 years but please marry me.".
When I told her that, she made a huge sigh and said, "Please don't do that anymore. It's really troublesome...", and she gave a sign to the staff which ended the handshake. I think the management wants to make it look like I was turned down. Hillary was there about 2 places towards the side, and when I waved my hand, she smiled and waved back. Even Hillary said that she knew that I was there when they performed in Washington, so she must know who I am. If I'm really hated, then Hillary wouldn't have done that so I think this is all the management's scheme. Well, whatever the reaction may be, at least I was able to say it from my mouth so that was fine that way. Date-musume abides by AKB's rules too much, but it can't be helped. I'll talk about something else again tomorrow. I'm out of here. The wotas will probably make some noise again.
5: スターダストプレス(空) 2014/01/26 18:22:32 ID:Lw39ujjUi
裁判所より先に病院に行かないと
This guy should be heading to the hospital first instead of the courtroom
6: 河津掛け(東京都) 2014/01/26 18:22:58 ID:XI0HWpUZ0
新手の炎上商法ですか?
Is this a new kind of technique to make some publicity?
85: レインメーカー(愛知県) 2014/01/26 18:38:25 ID:3pHOmaxq0
>>6
10: ダイビングエルボードロップ(やわらか銀行) 2014/01/26 18:24:16 ID:GuzlZdXnP
完全にクレイジー
Completely crazy
11: ローリングソバット(神奈川県) 2014/01/26 18:24:22 ID:UL1QqAlo0
勝てない裁判に無駄金使うとかヲタの財力半端ねーな
おまけにハゲ
Amazing that wotas sure have tons of money to burn on a case that they will never win.
And he's bald to top it off.
41: テキサスクローバーホールド(大阪府) 2014/01/26 18:29:47 ID:zYfF7kWD0
>>11
弁護士たてない本人訴訟です
He'll be representing himself without an attorney
12: イス攻撃(神奈川県) 2014/01/26 18:24:37 ID:3iy4kOWt0
不細工はともかく、貧乏人じゃアイドルに相手はしてもらえないな
年収1000億ぐらいあれば、自由に出来ると思うよ
Ugly guys are out of the question, but idols won't even bother dealing with poor guys.
I do think that you can do anything that you want with them if you earn about 100 billion a year, though.
13: トペ コンヒーロ(兵庫県) 2014/01/26 18:25:27 ID:SD10rKKD0
38才は自分ではまだ若いお兄さんだと思うんだろうけど、15才からすればオッサンだから。
15才の頃は、20才ですらオッサンだったしな。20から上はみんなオッサンオバサンで。

ま、秋元が悪いよ。オッサンに期待を持たせるようなことした秋元が悪い。
The 38-y/o guy probably thinks that he's still a young oniisan* (big bro), but he's just like an uncle from the eyes of a 15-y/o. When you're 15, you'd even think that people who are 20 are already uncles, while people above 20 are already gramps and grannies.
148: 張り手(福岡県) 2014/01/26 19:11:07 ID:kJHahrtc0
>>13
秋元自ら商品に手を出しておきながら「恋愛禁止」を謳ってんだもんな。
Even Akimoto lays his hands on his own products while preaching the "no relationships" rule
14: ストマッククロー(チベット自治区) 2014/01/26 18:25:45 ID:JbDCKaXS0
>>1
>極めて悪質なビジネスモデルであることを,この裁判で立証したいと考えています。

それが正確に分かってるなら、とっととCD買うのやめればいいだろwww
>>1 I want to prove in this trial that they have a relatively evil business model.

If you're aware of that, then you shouldn't be buying their CDs www
18: ダイビングエルボードロップ(茸) 2014/01/26 18:26:15 ID:9Na74fSnP
こいつがこんなになってしまった人生の経緯が知りたい
I want to know how this person became like this
40: エクスプロイダー(大阪府) 2014/01/26 18:29:43 ID:dH1DG/GP0
>>18
童貞こじらせたからだろ
10代で彼女作ってやりまくってれば
ここまでは行ってないはず
Maybe it's a severe case of preserving his virginity.
If he made a girlfriend in his teens and kept doing it with her, then he shouldn't have turned out like this.
21: ボ ラギノール(兵庫県) 2014/01/26 18:26:38 ID:ZDx0PpYh0
少し前に借金してCD買いまくったあげく振られたって奴もいただろ
あいつは若かったからまだやりなおしも効くだろうけど

何にしろAKB商法は害悪だわ
There was also a guy who loaned money, bought a ton of CDs, but still got turned down, right?
That guy was pretty young so he can still start over, though.
Whatever the case, AKB's selling method really is evil.
77: オリンピック予選スラム(東京都) 2014/01/26 18:37:23 ID:BMnoicqy0
>>21
CDを何百万円も気軽に買える金持ちなら魅力的だけど
何百万円も借金して買ってる貧乏人に、アイドルが惹かれるわけないだろうと思うんだが。
ホント理解不明だわ。

何年か前に、耳かきしてくれる風俗嬢に何百万円も借金して貢いで
付き合えなかったから殺したという事件があったけど
借金して貢いでもなんの好印象にもならないだろ。
付き合ったり結婚したら、その女にも重荷にがのしかかるんだから。
A rich guy who can easily pour in a few million yen to buy CDs would be appealing, but there's no way that an idol would be attracted to a poor guy who'd loan millions for the same purpose.
It really is hard to comprehend.

There was this case before when a guy borrowed millions of yen to use for a prostitute who would clean his ear, which he eventually killed because she wouldn't go out with him. But there's no way that you'd make yourself have a good image if you even have to loan money just to use it for that purpose. Even if these do end up together and get married, then that would just mean that the woman also has to shoulder the guy's debt.
24: ファルコンアロー(埼玉県) 2014/01/26 18:27:24 ID:jVZTh6Wj0
貢いだキャバ嬢への逆恨みはよくある話
A guy resenting a cabaret girl whom he has kept on financing is a common story
28: ファルコンアロー(大阪府) 2014/01/26 18:28:07 ID:z+lzhgW10
こういうキ○ガイは、次は一緒に死ぬと言い出しかねない
Crazy-a$$ people like this would start saying "Let's die together" next
30: ローリングソバット(神奈川県) 2014/01/26 18:28:14 ID:UL1QqAlo0
全国に散らばるキ○ガイを集めて管理してくれるアイドル業界は必要なのかもしれない
I now think that the idol industry who gathers all these retards from all over the nation and manages them is indeed necessary
35: ときめきメモリアル(静岡県) 2014/01/26 18:28:53 ID:MHql34zdI
毎日ファンレター送るなんて…
But sending fan letters every day...
39: ハイキック(山梨県) 2014/01/26 18:29:27 ID:/kV3fXIv0
そのうち刺される奴出るんじゃね
Someone might eventually get stabbed
45: デンジャラスバックドロップ(愛知県) 2014/01/26 18:30:07 ID:hC7MRu7u0
アイドルなんてこういうキ○ガイ織り込み済みで商売してるだろ
少なくとも事務所は
These idols definitely take these retards into consideration while doing their business.
At least their agencies are, though.
46: ビッグブーツ(埼玉県) 2014/01/26 18:30:09 ID:7PlK/yF20
大島優子ファン「優子は俺が一生幸せにする」 大島「は?」
Yuko Oshima fan: "I'll make Yuko happy for the rest of my life"
Oshima: "Huh?"
122: 16文キック(新疆ウイグル自治区) 2014/01/26 18:50:35 ID:8BOabfIt0
>>46
何を言われても「本当ですか?ありがとうございます」で返す伝家の宝刀
The oldest trick in the book is to say:
"Really? Thank you very much",
no matter what someone tells you.
49: ときめきメモリアル(静岡県) 2014/01/26 18:31:02 ID:MHql34zdI
怖いな…この女の子の身が心配だな…
Scary... I'm getting worried about this girl
50: パロスペシャル(東京都) 2014/01/26 18:31:03 ID:TNE5cC2m0
経緯は否定するが、運営会社の問題指摘はいいよ
I don't approve of the things that he has done which led to this, but I like how he's pointing out the problems with the management
53: アルゼンチンバックブリーカー(dion軍) 2014/01/26 18:31:33 ID:YYd3PkbK0
これ裁判却下されるんじゃないの
裁判所は暇じゃないのよ
Won't this lawsuit be rejected?
The court is a pretty busy place too, you know.
55: ブラディサンデー(兵庫県) 2014/01/26 18:31:36 ID:bpDnJFwS0
アイドルって思った以上にリスクある商売だな
全国のキ○ガイにストーカー対象とされる可能性があるんだぜ
Being an idol is more risky than I thought.
There's a possibility that you'll be stalked by all the retards nationwide.
56: ダイビングエルボードロップ(dion軍) 2014/01/26 18:31:39 ID:L//SQkwWP
AKB48 岩田華怜さん(15)
Karen Iwata-san (15)


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若干顔が似てるかも・・・やっぱり人間は自分に顔が近い異性を好きになるんだろうか?
They might have some similarities in their faces... I guess human beings do like the opposite sex who look similar to them?


http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/mashlife/imgs/6/a/6a6e0d73-s.jpg
63: パイルドライバー(群馬県) 2014/01/26 18:33:04 ID:pdZmvm6+0
俺、こうならなくて良かったと心から思う
I honestly feel glad from the bottom of my heart that I didn't turn out like this
71: ダイビングエルボードロップ(大阪府) 2014/01/26 18:35:25 ID:0ta3lFVlP
オタがアホなのは当然としても、
そういうアホから徹底的に金を搾り取るビジネスなんだから、
こういうリスクがついて回ることもアイドル本人や取り巻きは理解
すべきだよな。
Even if it's a given that otas are stupid, this is still a business that squeezes out all the money from those fools, so the idols and everyone around should understand that this sort of risk will always exist.
75: トラースキック(兵庫県) 2014/01/26 18:36:57 ID:7O7gfWAt0
行動力のあるキ○ガイってめちゃ怖いな
Retards who have the energy to take action are really scary
78: 稲妻レッグラリアット(チベット自治区) 2014/01/26 18:37:31 ID:D2uY23vg0
そもそもストーカー気質の奴がおっかけやるんだろ

そこに握手会ってのが火をつけたんだろ
もっと追いかけてー、CD買ってー って
People who follow these idols around are the ones who already have some sort of stalker instincts.

Their flame was probably lit at the handshake events, like
"Please chase after us some more, buy our CDs".
94: バックドロップホールド(埼玉県) 2014/01/26 18:39:58 ID:6FzdS8R20
童貞拗らせるとこうなるのか恐ろしいな
So this is what happens when you preserve your virginity? Scary.
114: ダイビングエルボードロップ(dion軍) 2014/01/26 18:46:24 ID:L//SQkwWP
>なおワタシは日立製作所に公益通報したにも関わらず懲戒解雇されてもおり 

ググると

日立製作所の社内SNSでAKBトーク
      ↓
歌詞を書いたりするなと上司に怒られる
      ↓
個人情報保護法違反だと社長に100通メール
      ↓
業務妨害で懲戒解雇


って事らしいな。文字通りAKBで人生踏み外したんだな(;・∀・)
>By the way, I spilled the beans about the wrongdoings of Hitachi, but I still got dismissed for disciplinary reasons. 

I Googled it, and:

He talked about AKB on the company's social networking site
      ↓
His boss gets mad at him for posting AKB song lyrics
      ↓
He sends hundreds of emails to the president for allegedly violating the 'Act on the Protection of Personal Information'
      ↓
Was dismissed for business disruption

He's precisely the type of person who took the wrong path in life because of AKB (;・∀・)
116: ドラゴンスリーパー(奈良県) 2014/01/26 18:48:03 ID:Vrd7NNxW0
>>114
軽度池沼でAKB関係なく問題起こしてるタイプだろ多分
Regardless of AKB, I think he's got slight communication disorder, and the type who would really cause problems
138: トラースキック(兵庫県) 2014/01/26 19:04:19 ID:7O7gfWAt0
>>114
なんでこんな人間が日立製作所に入社できたんだろう
強力なコネがあったのかな
How was a person like this accepted into Hitachi?
He probably has some strong connections.
140: パロスペシャル(愛知県) 2014/01/26 19:06:06 ID:TkRMdYUW0
>>114
心労で精神が壊れていたのか、もともとこういう人格なのか
I wonder if he had a mental breakdown due to anxiety, or if he was originally like this
120: レッドインク(愛知県) 2014/01/26 18:49:52 ID:JxouojCX0
世の中いろんな人が居るんだな
マジこえええ
There really are a lot of different people in the world, huh?
It's seriously scaryyyyy.
126: ラ ケブラーダ(四国地方) 2014/01/26 18:52:34 ID:O0SmxNuNP
俺が裁判官なら即日棄却するレベル
If I were the judge, I'd dismiss the case on the same day
130: ブラディサンデー(やわらか銀行) 2014/01/26 18:55:44 ID:57UsNTAj0
>>126
俺だったら棄却ではなく「却下」だな
If it was me, I wouldn't dismiss it, but reject it in the first place.
134: バズソーキック(埼玉県) 2014/01/26 18:59:55 ID:odf8EF0T0
動画もあった
大西秀宜 握手会で振られて落ち込む
Found a video
Hidenori Onishi gets depressed after being turned down at the handshake event



147: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(埼玉県) 2014/01/26 19:10:22 ID:eFUlIXKt0
この人オタ界隈じゃ有名みたいね

AKB48岩田華怜が握手会で泣き出し一時中断。
I heard that this guy is pretty popular in the otaku world.
He made Karen Iwata cry, which led to the event getting momentarily suspended.
157: ナガタロックII(WiMAX) 2014/01/26 19:25:23 ID:EtAOi+g10
風俗嬢が自分に気があると思っちゃうのと同じか。
風俗の仕組みを取り入れたAKBの宿命やね。
I think it's the same as thinking how a hooker also has feelings for you.
It's the fate of AKB who adopted that kind of setup.



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