Saturday, November 9, 2013

Why hasn't MomoClo's new song GOUNN been selling well?


1: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:32:52.46 0 ID:
昨年末からのメディア露出の割に伸びなかったのはなぜか
Considering the amount of their media exposure since the end of last year, why haven't their sales really picked up?

      Rodo  Mugen Otome  Saraba  GOUNN
――――――――――――――――――――――――――――
T   *10,750 *13,308 *29,025 *31,889  39,882 
W  **4,420 **7,872 *15,607 *15,041 ***,*** 
Th **2,036 **4,197 **7,849 **7,918 ***,*** 
F     **2,561 **3,944 **5,119 **5,333 ***,*** 
Sa **1,432 **3,452 **4,605 **5,838 ***,*** 
Su *18,187 **5,740 **3,522 **5,557 ***,*** 
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
To *39,386 *38,513  *65,727 *71,576 ***,*** 
Wk  *39,976 *39,858  *67,596 *73,745 ***,*** 

http://tower.jp/~/media/Images/Article/News/2013/Japanese/M/momoiro%20clover%20Z/%E3%82%82%E3%82%82%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD_gounn_sub_b.jpg


Nov. 5 (Day 1 sales)
1. 46,536 Hottake BAND
2. 45,365 ℃-ute


3. 39,882 MomoClo



6: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:35:29.55 0 ID:
あら思ったより売れてないのね
Oh wow, those sales are lower than expected
7: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:35:45.53 0 ID:
あのジャケットは引くわw
That CD jacket is a turn off w

http://tower.jp/~/media/Images/Article/News/2013/Jacket/M/momoiro%20clover%20Z/GOUNN/MCZ_GOUNN_shokai.jpg
9: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:36:11.80 0 ID:
初日最低5万はいくと思った
I thought that they would at least sell 50,000 copies on the first day
12: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:37:36.92 0 ID:
俺も5万はいくと思った
んで初動8~9万あたりかなと
I also thought that they'd at least get 50,000.
Then their initial sales would be around 80,000-90,000.
15: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:38:33.53 0 ID:
正直、テレビでの生歌の印象は良くなかったと思う
Honestly, I think they're live singing on TV didn't give off that good of an impression

16: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:38:40.91 0 ID:
三回聴いたら飽きちゃった
I grew tired after listening to it 3x
18: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:38:48.92 0 ID:
なんか30万とか今朝までもののふが言ってなかった?w
Didn't the Mononofus say until this morning that it sold 300,000?
24: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:40:14.23 0 ID:
>>18
それはアンチだろw
初動10万は期待してたやついると思うが
Those were the haters w
I do believe that there were some who expected 100,000 for the initial sales.
19: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:39:05.71 0 ID:
amazon在庫切れw
Out of stock on Amazon w
23: 名無し募集中。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:40:07.71 0 ID:
まあ、通常版売り切れ店舗続出と、DL配信で購入した層が多かったの2点が原因だろ。
元々ももクロのCD販売数はこんなもの、、と言っても過去最高の初日販売数だし

上等じゃないのか!
I think the 2 biggest factors here are that there are a lot of stores that immediately ran out of stock and that there were a lot who bought the downloadable versions. MomoClo's CD sales have always been pretty much like this since before... And actually, this is their highest 1st day sales.

That's actually pretty good!
26: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:40:59.20 0 ID:
品切れガー
配信ガー

ちょっと前のモーヲタと同じ言い訳してて盛大に噴いたwwwwwwwwwwwww
Out of stock---
Downloads---

I'm LOLing so much at how these excuses sound so much like the MoMusu-wotas a while back wwwwwwwwwwwww
27: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:41:19.77 0 ID:
このままだと初動10万行かないままドームツアーにまで到達してしまう
At this rate, they'll be starting their dome tour without even reaching an initial sales of 100,000
29: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:41:59.83 0 ID:
シングルださなすぎて飽きられたな
3月頃出してれば売れたろうに
People are getting tired easily because of the lack of new singles.
It would have probably sold a lot if it was released around last March.
35: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:43:11.97 0 ID:
コンサに行って盛り上がりたいミーハー情弱=CDを買うようなファン、ではないから
Because the uninformed bandwagoners who just want to enjoy the concerts are not the fans who buy their CDs
38: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:43:45.65 0 ID:
ウィークリーは℃-uteに勝つよ
It'll beat ℃-ute in the weekly rankings
49: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:46:04.40 0 ID:
>>38
いや、負けるね
勝てるとしたら2周目以降
Nah, it'll lose.
Their only chance of winning will be from the 2nd week onwards.
42: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:45:06.92 0 ID:
ももクロのCDは2週目以降ロングセールスだから(震え声
Because MomoClo's CDs are long-lasting sellers from the 2nd week onwards
43: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:45:31.03 0 ID:
アイドルブームの終わりが近いんだろ
Maybe the idol boom is coming to an end
47: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:45:54.42 0 ID:
どうせ明日3万ぐらい数字乗せてくるんだろ?
But they're just still going to get an additional 30,000 tomorrow, right?
51: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:46:08.81 0 ID:
普通に売れてるけどハロカス老眼で文字読めなくなったのか?
It's actually selling well. Can't the Hello-kasus* with old eyes read anymore?

* (derogatory term for Hello! Pro fans)
57: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:48:44.90 0 ID:
だってここ1年ずっとつまんねえんだもん
売れなくて当然
この状態で紅白なんて選ばれても去年と違って全く嬉しくない
Because they've been so boring for the past year.
Of course they won't sell enough.
And if they still get chosen for the Kouhaku in this state, it won't be such a joyous feat unlike last year. 
60: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:48:56.95 0 ID:
日産がしょっぱすぎて、俺の周りでは何人か離れて行った。
そういう人達を呼び戻せるようなシングルではなかったな。
Because their Nissan concert was so lame, some people I know actually distanced themselves from the group.
And this isn't a single that would be able to bring those people back.

http://blog-imgs-47.fc2.com/m/o/m/momoclonews/aecfbb0a.jpg
73: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:53:41.14 0 ID:
>>60
あんな糞高い値段であんな茶番見せられたらキレて当然だわ
スタンド前方席の人なら普通にしてくれてたら近くで見れてたって思う
There's no way people won't get mad after seeing that farce after paying such an expensive fee.
Even the people in the front rows of the stands would have probably seen them up close if they just did things normally.
75: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:54:26.54 0 ID:
>>60
逆だw
知り合いは日産で満足してヲタ卒したw
It's the other way around w
Someone I know got satisfied with that and graduated from being a wota w
62: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:49:29.66 0 ID:
だから言うたやん
安易な奇抜はファンすら引くよて
That's what I've been saying.
Cheap eccentric gimmicks will turn the fans off.
67: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:51:21.90 0 ID:
俺のまわりアルバムだしたあたりからどんどんももクロから他界してる

曲がつまらんからって
People around me started alienating themselves from MomoClo since they released their album.
They said the songs are boring.
http://www.musicman-net.com/files/2013/04/f515c0f9f797e2.jpg
68: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:51:27.46 0 ID:
いままではオリコンずーとランクインして
楽曲の力もあることを示したが 今作は何週持つんだろうか
Up to now, they've always ranked in Oricon and showed the strength of their music. But I wonder how many weeks they'll last this time.
74: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:54:18.62 0 ID:
今年に入ってずっとおかしかったからな
これに懲りて反省したらいいんじゃない
俺はもうどうでもいいけど
They've been weird since the start of this year.
I hope they learn their lesson from this and reflect on what they have done.
I don't care anymore, though.
80: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:58:09.72 0 ID:
ライブに行くのにCD1枚も買わないとかありえるのか
Is it really possible that people who go to their concerts don't even have one of their CDs?
84: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:59:18.31 0 ID:
>>80
ありうる
ももクロファンは10-20代メインだからCDプレイヤー自体を持ってないというケースも大量にあると思う

5年後10年後はどのアーティストもももクロみたいな推移になると思う
It is.
MomoClo fans are mainly the people in their teens to twenties, so I think that there are a lot of these guys who don't even have a CD player.
I think all artists 5-10 years from now will have the same kind of sales as MomoClo.
82: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:59:07.35 0 ID:
1年ぶりのシングルだとワクワクしてたらドロップされたのはイミフな仏教ソング

そりゃよほど信心深いモノノフじゃない限りランナウェイしたくなっちゃうよ
I was so excited that they were having a single after a year's wait, and they dropped this incomprehensible religious hymn-like song.
People would really run away from this if they're not deep mononofus.
87: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:00:23.71 0 ID:
むしろこんだけ滑りまくってよくヲタが付いてきてるよ感心するわ
I'm actually impressed that they still have a lot of wotas after failing again and again
94: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:06:32.03 0 ID:
明日の売上枚数が1万5千枚切るとジリ貧傾向だろうな
If their sales tomorrow will be less than 15,000 then they'll just gradually decline from that
102: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:10:35.16 0 ID:
また握手でCD売る活動に戻るの?(´・ω・`)
Are they going to have to resort again to handshake methods to sell their CD?
119: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:17:55.80 0 ID:
サラバが紅白前なのに伸びなさすぎ
10万超えてないといけなかった
なので今回のは容易に想像できた
"Saraba" was their Kouhaku song but its sales didn't increase at all.
It should have at least sold 100,000 units.
And that's why I was easily able to predict this sort of outcome.

124: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:18:42.26 0 ID:
タイトルからして意味不明だから
Because the title in itself is already incomprehensible
144: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:23:29.71 0 ID:
初週は前作超えるだろうけど累計は前作より大幅ダウンだと思う
I predict that the first week will exceed the previous single but the total will be much lower than it
147: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:24:08.78 0 ID:
   労働    無限   Z女   サラバ  GOUNN
――――――――――――――――――――――
火 *10,750 *13,308 *29,025 *31,889 39,882
水 **4,420 **7,872 *15,607 *15,041 ***,***
木 **2,036 **4,197 **7,849 **7,918 ***,***
金 **2,561 **3,944 **5,119 **5,333 ***,***
土 **1,432 **3,452 **4,605 **5,838 ***,***
日 *18,187 **5,740 **3,522 **5,557 ***,***
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
計 *39,386 *38,513  *65,727 *71,576 ***,***
週 *39,976 *39,858  *67,596 *73,745 ***,***
   
     Rodo   Mugen  Otome   Saraba  GOUNN
――――――――――――――――――――――
T   *10,750 *13,308 *29,025 *31,889  39,882 
W  **4,420 **7,872 *15,607 *15,041 ***,*** 
Th **2,036 **4,197 **7,849 **7,918 ***,*** 
F     **2,561 **3,944 **5,119 **5,333 ***,*** 
Sa **1,432 **3,452 **4,605 **5,838 ***,*** 
Su *18,187 **5,740 **3,522 **5,557 ***,*** 
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
To *39,386 *38,513  *65,727 *71,576 ***,*** 

Wk *39,976 *39,858  *67,596 *73,745 ***,*** 
170: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:31:21.38 0 ID:
>>147
売り上げ伸ばしてるじゃん
て誰も言わないんだな
元から売れてない
So no one's saying that their sales have increased, huh w
Well, they really haven't been selling well since before.
151: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:25:26.87 0 ID:
実人気と売れっ子扱いの差がありすぎw
The gap between what's really popular and what's being advertised as popular is too wide w
153: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:25:46.17 0 ID:
一般があんなジャケットのシングルCDを買うかな
しかも売り切れ続出なんでしょ?
買い時なくしてアルバム待ちするんじゃないの
I wonder if the general public would really buy a CD with that sort of jacket.
And it's sold out in a lot of stores, right?
Aren't people passing this by and just waiting for their album?
161: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:28:18.21 0 ID:
単純に曲がよくない
てかそれ以前に実力のなさに尽きる
It's just that the song isn't good.
But it all boils down to how these girls don't have any talent at all.
166: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:29:26.56 0 ID:
ももクロちゃんは動員力で勝負してるんだから
CDの売り上げは参考程度でしかないわ
MomoClo-chan are doing battle with concert ticket sales.
These CD sales figures can only be used as reference.
183: 名無し募集中 2013/11/06(水) 22:35:42.50 0 ID:
前作ごえすりゃ十分だろ
シングル力入れてんならもっと出すし四種とかやるし
It'll be enough as long as it surpasses their previous single.
If they're really serious with their singles then they'd come out with more singles, and even come out with 4 variations and stuff.
193: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:38:03.05 0 ID:
ライト層が新しい面白いもの見つけたら終わりだね
It'll be the end for them once the lightweight users find something new and interesting
206: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:40:58.09 0 ID:
曲も衣装もジャケもだせー
あんなんじゃ一見さんお断りでヲタしか買わない
The song, their costumes, and the cover are all so tacky.
Things like that would just drive away the casual consumers. Wotas will be the only ones to buy that.
213: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:42:48.80 0 ID:
単純に飽きた
それに尽きる
とりあえずまた返り咲きたかったら自分に酔ってる運営陣一新させろ
I just grew tired of them.
That's it.
If they want to make a comeback then they should first do something about their management who are full of themselves.
221: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:44:27.96 0 ID:
一般層のファンならCDじゃなくDLするんじゃないか?
Won't their more casual fans be buying the digital version instead of the CD?
246: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:50:20.18 0 ID:
単にエスニック色が強すぎたんじゃ
Maybe it just all seems too... ethnic
250: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:51:41.51 0 ID:
モノノフの多くが立てたハードルが前作越えでしょ
曲や衣装見てその程度のハードルしか建てられなかったって事だよ

本音ではだめだとみんな思ってた
The hurdle that most mononofus have set is for it to just surpass its predecessor.
That was all they can manage after hearing the song and seeing their costumes.
Everyone probably thought deep inside that this wasn't good.
254: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:52:34.08 0 ID:
大丈夫だ明日には5万の援軍が到着するから問題ない
Don't worry, their support group of 50,000 will come tomorrow so there's no problem at all
269: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:55:49.19 0 ID:
十代の一番自然に輝ける時期にドリアンマスクとか仏陀とかもうアホかと
They must be stupid for wearing that durian mask and doing buddhist stuff in their teens which is the time that they can all shine the brightest

http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/004/964/42/N000/000/002/136280148436913213009_news_large_momoirocloverZ_art_201303_ver3.jpg
271: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:56:01.07 0 ID:
寧ろこの作戦しか選択肢がない
実力がないからこそ奇をてらって糞みたいなチンドン屋スパイラル

結果は今回の通り
This is actually the only strategy that they have.
They don't have the talent so they're just relying on their eccentricity and are just doing stuff like those loudly dressed street musicians.

And as you can see, this is the result.
276: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:57:16.22 0 ID:
変化もたせるならセンターを変えればいいんよ
ファンは夏菜子のゴリ推しワンパターンに完全に飽きてる
If they want some change then they should change their center.
The fans are totally getting sick of their single-minded approach of overpushing Kanako.
286: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:59:47.71 0 ID:
要は押しつけがましいくクドいギミックにヲタが愛想尽かした感じ
The bottomline is that the wotas have grown tired of their tedious gimmicks
288: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:59:55.75 0 ID:
なんだサラバより売れているじゃん
Oh, but it actually sold more than "Saraba"
290: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 23:00:12.58 0 ID:
前作超えしてるのに失敗扱いするのは無理があるわw
There's something wrong with you guys by saying it has failed while it has sold more than the previous release w


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